Explore the complexities of cluster headaches with Migraine Canada’s enlightening webinar, featuring Dr. William Kingston, a distinguished neurologist and headache specialist. This session unravels the profound impact and distinctive symptoms of cluster headaches, discussing common misdiagnosis challenges. Explore essential treatments, patient resources, and emerging therapies that promise new hope for those affected. Gain valuable insights from Dr. Kingston’s expertise as we navigate towards comprehensive understanding and effective management of cluster headaches.
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0:36 welcome everybody and thank you very
0:38 much for your interest in our webinar
0:39 tonight
0:40 i’m wendy gerhart i work with migraine
0:42 canada and happy to be
0:45 hosting this webinar this evening with
0:47 dr kingston who i will introduce in a
0:49 moment
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1:03 today’s agenda i’m just going to give a
1:05 very brief overview of migraine canada
1:07 for those of you who are not familiar
1:09 with us
1:10 dr kingston has graciously agreed to
1:13 be your host presentation or our keynote
1:16 speaker
1:17 tonight on cluster um and you have an
1:20 opportunity to ask your questions
1:21 and and get some answers from dr
1:23 kingston
1:24 um and we ask that you put your
1:26 questions just into the q a chat
1:29 and we’ll hold them until the end and
1:31 then we’ll work through those
1:34 so for those of you who aren’t familiar
1:35 with migraine canada
1:37 we are a national organization
1:39 supporting all canadians living with
1:40 migraine and headache disorders
1:42 we are federally registered as a
1:44 not-for-profit corporation
1:47 we are young the organization has only
1:49 been in existence for
1:50 about two years which totally shocked me
1:54 coming from um the pharmaceutical
1:57 industry where i’ve been
1:58 working with lots of organizations who
2:00 have been around for you know 25 or 30
2:02 years so we’re very young
2:03 we’re growing quickly and we’re really
2:05 here to support the
2:07 the the community um our board is
2:10 comprised of volunteers
2:12 um we have some healthcare professionals
2:14 on our board and we also have
2:16 a significant number of um people who
2:19 are
2:20 our patients or live with migraine
2:22 themselves
2:23 um we have an executive director and
2:26 we run on the help of volunteers and so
2:30 that’s who we are
2:31 um our mission and vision are very
2:33 simple our vision
2:35 is that canadians living with migraine
2:37 and headaches are diagnosed treated and
2:39 supported so the quality of life is
2:40 optimized
2:41 and our mission is really to improve the
2:43 lives of canadians with migraine and
2:45 other headache disorders through
2:47 awareness support education advocacy and
2:50 research
2:52 we have five strategic pillars and i
2:54 won’t go into detail
2:56 very very common in not-for-profit
2:57 organizations awareness
2:59 education support advocacy and research
3:03 and those are all
3:04 you know i just read them through in our
3:05 mission as well
3:07 um a call to action from you tonight is
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3:13 um you know without your voice
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3:23 that i can go out and advocate on your
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3:29 the community and just a little bit of
3:32 housekeeping uh we provide information
3:34 not medical advice
3:36 uh the information that you will be
3:37 presented this evening and discussed may
3:39 not apply to your own medical situation
3:42 and we ask that you discuss your medical
3:44 treatments with your own health care
3:45 provider who knows your
3:46 medical history and with that i’m going
3:48 to turn it over to
3:50 dr kingston after i do a brief uh bio
3:53 from him
3:54 he was born in moncton new brunswick he
3:58 practices are sorry he trained his
4:01 neurology training was at the university
4:03 of toronto
4:04 he received his headache medicine
4:07 fellowship at the mayo
4:08 clinic in arizona and he’s currently
4:11 working as a headache neurologist at
4:13 sunnybrook health
4:14 sciences center and women’s college
4:16 hospital in toronto
4:18 his major interests include cluster
4:20 headache and headache in pregnancy
4:22 and he runs the only dedicated headache
4:24 in pregnancy clinic in canada
4:26 and with that i will turn it over to you
4:28 dr kingston
4:30 all right well thanks thanks so much for
4:32 having me um
4:33 i i get to talk about one of my favorite
4:35 topics today which is which is really
4:37 great and it was exciting to see so many
4:38 people that were
4:39 that were interested in hearing about it
4:41 i know there’s a wide variety of
4:43 folks out there listening from health
4:45 care providers to pharma people to
4:47 patients to family members so
4:49 i’ve done my best to try to make the
4:51 language suitable for everyone but of
4:52 course if there’s something i’ve said
4:54 that’s
4:54 that hasn’t made sense just let me know
4:56 before uh after it afterwards and i’ll
4:58 try to clarify as best i can
5:00 um what i the way that i’m framing this
5:02 is to kind of give everybody an overview
5:04 of exactly what cluster headache is why
5:06 it’s important
5:08 and i think one of the things that i get
5:10 asked often is
5:11 you know why aren’t there more
5:12 treatments for this and why do people so
5:14 few people know about it and
5:15 i hope to shed a little bit of light on
5:17 on um why that’s the case and why
5:20 it can be so problematic there we go so
5:23 i have some you know speaking
5:24 disclosures that i always have to that i
5:26 always share before every uh slide none
5:27 of them are terribly relevant to today
5:29 but
5:29 in the interest of transparency here
5:31 they are um
5:32 so what is cluster headache so we look
5:35 at
5:36 cluster headache is being what we call a
5:37 primary headache disorder
5:39 and when we use the word primary
5:41 headache disorder what that really means
5:43 is we don’t have a known
5:44 underlying cause that’s causing the
5:47 symptoms so
5:48 for example the most common primary
5:49 headache disorder that we would see
5:51 in clinical practice would be migraine
5:53 it doesn’t mean that there isn’t some
5:54 kind of
5:55 generator for migraine it means that if
5:57 we do a scan or if we do blood work
5:59 we’re not seeing an underlying cause
6:00 that’s reversible
6:02 so a cluster headache is another primary
6:04 headache disorder
6:05 the way that we characterize and what
6:06 kind of symptoms we see and and really
6:08 the way that we make a diagnosis of
6:10 cluster headache
6:11 is based on the symptoms that one has is
6:13 it’s a syndrome
6:15 of headaches that are what we call side
6:17 locked so for example you may hear the
6:19 word unilateral which means one-sided
6:21 and migraine can be one-sided too but it
6:24 will often change sides
6:25 with cluster headache and related
6:26 disorders we often see
6:28 side lock tank meaning that it’s always
6:30 on one side and does not change
6:32 sides between attacks um usually
6:35 this is in in in accompaniment with
6:38 what we call autonomic features or
6:41 autonomic symptoms
6:42 when i use the word autonomic that
6:44 really refers to the part of the nervous
6:45 system that
6:46 that is responsible for automatic
6:48 functions that we don’t have conscious
6:50 control over
6:51 and i’ll talk about what exactly those
6:52 symptoms are in a moment
6:54 um i think it’s important that cluster
6:56 headache has had many names throughout
6:58 the ages
6:59 and a lot of them are antiquated now but
7:02 one of the names that it gets that gets
7:03 thrown around a lot is
7:05 is suicide headaches and and i’ll
7:07 explain as to why that is as we go
7:09 forward a little bit
7:10 the way that we characterize headache
7:12 disorders in general and cluster
7:13 headache is no different
7:14 is by calling them either episodic or
7:16 chronic and i think
7:18 one thing that’s important to know is
7:19 that the way that we use the word
7:21 chronic when it relates to headache
7:22 disorders is a little different than
7:24 than how we use it to relate to other
7:26 medical problems
7:27 um episodic in this case means headaches
7:30 that
7:31 come for a period of time and then go
7:33 away for a while and then come back
7:34 whereas chronic means that they last for
7:36 a long time without any significant
7:38 period of reprieve
7:40 and i’ll show you exactly what that
7:41 cutoff is at the moment um
7:44 interestingly if we compare it with
7:46 migraine it’s a little more common for
7:48 us to be fooled and that there actually
7:50 may be something
7:51 underlying that causes um cluster
7:53 headache but it’s
7:55 still the minority of the cases and
7:57 usually there is some
7:58 um features that are a little bit
7:59 different in people who have
8:01 something else causing it that i’ll that
8:02 i’ll explore a little bit with you guys
8:04 i promise i’m not going to go over this
8:06 this nightmare of a slide but i have it
8:08 here
8:09 really to show you what the difference
8:10 is and how we make the diagnosis
8:12 so basically the way that we
8:14 characterize headaches
8:16 um in this class which we call
8:18 trigeminal
8:19 autonomic cephalologists or tax
8:22 of which cluster is by far the most
8:24 common type
8:26 so the way that we describe it are
8:27 headaches that are one-sided
8:29 that last from 15 minutes to 180 minutes
8:33 if they’re untreated so if they don’t if
8:35 someone doesn’t take medicine
8:36 how long will the headache go for that’s
8:38 the cut-off that we that we typically
8:40 use
8:41 and then it should be accompanied with
8:42 what i mentioned as autonomic
8:44 features and if we actually look at what
8:46 that means
8:48 conjunctival injection means redness of
8:50 the eye and usually that would be on the
8:52 same
8:52 side as the headache that can be
8:55 also accompanied by lac cremation which
8:57 means watering of the same
8:59 of the eye on the same side we can also
9:02 see
9:02 nasal congestion on the same side as the
9:04 headache and sometimes even
9:07 forehead sweating and some and ptosis
9:09 and meiosis refers to changes in the
9:11 sizes of the pupil
9:12 on the same side of the headache when
9:14 the headache is active
9:16 and usually we also look at the
9:18 frequency by which those headaches
9:19 happen so not only how long does each
9:21 individual headache last for how often
9:23 is it happening
9:24 and we look at that as being anywhere
9:26 from once every other day
9:27 to upwards of eight times per day and if
9:30 you contrast that to people who have
9:31 migraine for example typically
9:33 there would be one prolonged headache
9:35 during the day of course there’s
9:36 exceptions to every rule and
9:38 perhaps a headache can be treated and
9:39 then come back with migraine but it is
9:40 quite quite a different disorder for the
9:42 most part
9:43 and here’s how we make that distinction
9:45 between episodic and chronic as i
9:47 mentioned before
9:48 so an episodic cluster headache means
9:51 that
9:52 there is a there is a period of time
9:54 where there is at least
9:55 three months between headache episodes
9:58 and chronic means there is no period
10:01 of three months between episodes of
10:02 headache so
10:04 thankfully um most patients with cluster
10:07 headache
10:08 have what we call episodic cluster
10:09 headache because the chronic cluster
10:11 headache
10:12 is a much more difficult disorder to
10:13 treat unfortunately in a very in a very
10:15 difficult one
10:16 for people to experience so as i
10:19 mentioned you know these autonomic
10:21 symptoms we see
10:22 can be paramount at making and making
10:24 the diagnosis
10:25 and the watery eye is probably the most
10:27 common about 75
10:28 of all people with cluster headache do
10:30 have a watery eye on one side when they
10:31 get this headache
10:33 and then the red eye is the second most
10:34 common followed by the nasal congestion
10:37 and and the word horner’s syndrome
10:39 refers to
10:40 a little bit of a droopy eyelid a change
10:42 in the pupil size
10:43 and potentially a change in the sweating
10:45 that all happens at the same time
10:47 and that can sometimes happen even
10:49 between attacks for people who have
10:50 really really frequent headache attacks
10:54 so interestingly if you think about and
10:56 i’m sure you know migraine
10:58 for example is a very common disorder
11:00 that um
11:01 i would imagine every single person on
11:03 here knows somebody with migraine
11:04 and here you hear someone with migraine
11:06 what they want to do is
11:07 go lay in bed tell everyone to leave
11:09 them alone so that they can
11:10 get some rest and feel better contrast
11:13 that to people with cluster headache who
11:14 feel very agitated and often restless
11:16 during an attack
11:17 if you actually do a screen of people
11:19 who have cluster headache
11:20 only about three percent of people with
11:23 a diagnosed cluster headache
11:24 feel like they can actually sit still
11:26 during an attack so people
11:28 will rock back and forth they’ll pace
11:30 sometimes they’ll bang their head
11:31 against the wall i’ve heard people jump
11:32 into
11:33 a frozen pool before jump into the snow
11:36 all these things
11:37 really do happen i i like to include
11:40 this picture because it was it was at a
11:42 um
11:42 a headache conference that i attended a
11:44 couple years ago from uh these actors
11:46 were depicting artists depictions of
11:48 what
11:49 people experienced during a cluster
11:50 headache and i think that this
11:52 really uh hits home in that many people
11:55 who have cluster headache
11:56 will describe a sense that there’s
11:58 almost a foreign body in their eye
12:00 on the same side as as the headache
12:02 episode so this is
12:03 very interesting but there is some other
12:05 features with cluster headache that make
12:07 it a little bit different
12:08 and and personally what i think makes it
12:09 one of the more interesting
12:11 problems that i see in that there is
12:13 what we call a
12:14 circadian periodicity and what that
12:17 means is there seems to be a very clear
12:19 effect of the time of day
12:21 so sometimes people who have cluster
12:22 headache can actually set their watch by
12:24 the time they’re going to get their
12:25 cluster headache
12:26 and they’ll know every time on this day
12:28 i’m going to get it at this time i’m
12:29 going to get it
12:30 and the same thing goes with what we
12:32 call a circ annual periodicity and what
12:34 that means is that there’s a seasonal
12:36 predilection
12:37 meaning there may be one season where
12:38 their headaches are very very very
12:40 active
12:40 and then they may go away for half the
12:42 year and then come back and i’ll show
12:44 you a little bit of data
12:45 on on some surveys uh that were taken
12:47 worldwide
12:48 to demonstrate this when i say migrant
12:51 features
12:52 you know if you hear about someone with
12:53 migraine you may hear that they’re
12:55 sensitive to lights or sounds or they
12:57 feel
12:58 nauseous those are less common in in
13:01 people with cluster headache but
13:02 sometimes when you do
13:03 see them they for example may be
13:05 sensitive to light but only in the eye
13:07 that’s affected
13:08 by the cluster headache only on that
13:10 same side so sometimes that can be a
13:12 reason why things get a little bit
13:13 misconstrued in terms of a diagnosis so
13:17 this circadian periodicity that like the
13:20 time of day effect that i mentioned can
13:21 actually be pretty striking
13:23 and i’ll show you exactly um why that is
13:25 i think in the next slide
13:26 but for what it’s worth um there does
13:29 appear to be an association
13:30 in terms of genes that people carry for
13:32 cluster headache that also have
13:34 um some commonality with people who have
13:38 genes for certain
13:39 sleep disorders although that
13:40 association is not entirely fleshed out
13:42 and is a source of uh
13:44 what we need to study a little bit more
13:46 to fully flesh out
13:49 so interestingly in 2011 there was a
13:52 study that was done
13:53 um interviewing people sort of around
13:55 the world uh
13:56 and no matter where people live no
13:58 matter what time zone they were in
14:00 um the single most common time of day
14:03 to have a cluster headache attack was at
14:05 about 2 a.m
14:07 so very very interesting
14:10 you know what also can be striking about
14:13 this time of day effect is that it can
14:14 make people afraid to go to sleep
14:17 so people can then start to develop
14:18 sleep disorders because they know oh my
14:20 god i’m going to wake up
14:21 at 2 a.m with this horrible headache not
14:24 be able to sleep pace around the room
14:25 until it goes away
14:27 and it’s really just excruciating and
14:28 this this can lead to anxiety about
14:30 going to sleep
14:31 which is a co which is something we call
14:33 it’s a long
14:34 nonsense word but it’s cephalologophobia
14:37 which means fear of getting headache
14:38 essentially
14:40 um for whatever reason you know the
14:44 seasons seem to be a little bit
14:45 different in different countries
14:46 um when things are most active that prob
14:48 that may have an effect of sunlight but
14:49 we’re not completely sure about that
14:51 but for what it’s worth in in north
14:53 america spring and fall
14:55 uh cluster heading seems to be a little
14:57 bit more active compared with summer and
14:58 winter
15:00 some people will cycle differently some
15:02 people with episodic
15:03 cluster headache will notice a very
15:05 clear you know
15:06 every fall every spring some people will
15:09 be every fall
15:11 some people it’s only every two years
15:13 and
15:14 and often people will follow the same
15:16 trajectory
15:17 but you know this is a disorder that
15:19 people have for many many many many
15:20 years and it can and it’s
15:22 its pattern can change a little bit over
15:24 time as someone ages
15:26 so this is another sort of uh graph of
15:29 the most common time of year
15:31 people will develop symptoms and this
15:32 one was in north america and again
15:34 it very clearly shows peaks sort of in
15:37 october
15:38 and then again in march and april
15:41 so the other things that i think are
15:42 really important that i’m sure there’s
15:44 at least a few people on here that can
15:46 can relate to this is that there’s a big
15:48 delay in diagnosis
15:50 so the average time from the onset to
15:53 diagnosis
15:53 is five years and when people first go
15:57 to the doctor with these symptoms
15:58 only about 20 actually receive the
16:01 correct diagnosis but
16:02 the first time they go to the doctor um
16:05 and i think this can be important just
16:06 because of the severity of these
16:08 headaches you know
16:09 if you i don’t have a slide relating to
16:11 this um
16:12 in this particular talk but if you for
16:15 example
16:15 have one person who has experienced
16:18 kidney stones
16:19 childbirth and cluster headache and
16:20 they’ve experienced all of them
16:24 cluster headache is always rated as the
16:26 most painful and it’s often referred to
16:28 as the most painful condition known to
16:29 human beings why and that’s why it’s so
16:31 important
16:32 and for what it’s worth about 55 of all
16:35 people with cluster headache have
16:37 have experienced some suicidal thoughts
16:40 during these headaches so this is it’s
16:41 nothing to shake a stick about it it’s a
16:42 really important thing
16:44 to get treated for what it’s worth we
16:46 know that alcohol
16:47 can be a trigger for people with cluster
16:49 headache but interestingly
16:50 it seems to only be a trigger when
16:52 someone is in that susceptibility period
16:54 so let’s say someone has cluster
16:55 headache
16:56 and they tend to only really cycle in
16:59 let’s say the spring
17:00 if they have a beer in the spring they
17:03 may get a headache
17:04 but if they have a beer in october no
17:06 problem doesn’t doesn’t cause a headache
17:07 so it’s a very interesting
17:09 uh very interesting disorder from that
17:11 and for what it’s worth we know that
17:12 there’s also
17:13 certain alcohols that tend to be more
17:15 triggering than others and and for what
17:17 for whatever reason we’ve we’ve noticed
17:19 that beer
17:20 seems to be a little bit more triggering
17:21 than other types of alcohol
17:23 um about 75 of individual attacks are
17:27 less than 60 minutes
17:28 so sometimes they can be brief and that
17:30 can make it really tricky to treat them
17:32 which is something i’ll touch on in just
17:34 a moment um
17:35 there is some people who will notice
17:38 during one cluster
17:40 period so that is to say while it’s
17:42 active
17:43 and then you compare it to the next time
17:44 they developed it where it can switch
17:46 sides
17:47 but that’s a very very small amount of
17:49 people who experience cluster headaches
17:50 so that’s the minority of people
17:53 so interestingly and i like to share
17:55 this statistic because
17:56 um it’s i don’t know really what it says
18:00 about
18:00 about how well we’re recognizing this
18:02 but i still think it’s an interesting
18:03 thing
18:04 so for example if i’m teaching a group
18:06 of residents one question that i’ll
18:07 often ask them is
18:08 who here has seen a case of multiple
18:10 sclerosis who here has seen a case of
18:13 parkinson’s disease inevitably everyone
18:15 in the audience will raise their hand
18:16 for both of those questions
18:18 but if i ask the same question and say
18:20 how many people here have seen a case of
18:22 cluster headache
18:23 you’d be surprised how few have actually
18:24 seen them and i know there are there are
18:26 residents who go through their entire
18:27 neurology residency
18:29 without actually having seen a case of
18:31 cluster heading because it’s not being
18:32 recognized enough which is
18:34 which is unfortunate because this it
18:36 occurs at the same prevalence
18:38 in our population as multiple sclerosis
18:40 and parkinson’s disease
18:42 so it’s it’s not that it’s not there
18:44 it’s it’s that we’re not either
18:46 either we’re not seeing it or we’re not
18:47 recognizing it and i think there’s a
18:48 couple of reasons for that that i’m
18:49 going to touch on
18:51 um for what it’s worth it rarely occurs
18:53 in the pediatric population so it’s rare
18:55 for it to start before
18:56 age 18 but it has been seen so there are
18:59 reports of that
19:00 and again it’s also pretty rare for it
19:03 to occur occur
19:04 in older age and when we see it occur in
19:06 an older age
19:08 that’s when we really need to think
19:09 about looking and going going a little
19:11 deeper
19:12 looking to make sure we’re not missing
19:13 something else that could be causing the
19:14 symptoms
19:17 because people i want you all to think
19:20 about what it’s like when you go to the
19:21 doctor for a moment
19:22 so let’s pretend that you have seen your
19:26 family your family doctor you’ve just
19:28 developed this horrifying headache
19:30 and they say okay i’m not sure what this
19:32 is i’m gonna send you to
19:34 let’s say a neurologist okay let’s say
19:37 on a good day
19:38 you have a wait a wait time of a couple
19:40 of months to see a neurologist you know
19:42 at the best of times by the time you get
19:44 to the neurologist your headaches may be
19:46 gone
19:47 and maybe you’ll say well geez it’s gone
19:49 why would i even bother keeping my
19:50 appointment
19:51 and i think a lot of the times that is
19:53 what happens and because that happens or
19:56 because when you get to the neurologist
19:57 you’re no longer having symptoms
19:59 they’re less likely to keep seeing you
20:00 because you’re you know doing well
20:03 and i think that um leads a lot of
20:05 people to get lost to follow up
20:07 for a multitude of reasons like i just
20:09 mentioned and for the same reason
20:11 it becomes harder and harder and harder
20:13 for doctors who do research
20:14 in this condition to enroll people
20:16 because we’re often not getting them a
20:18 fast enough
20:19 or keeping them long enough um and
20:22 because
20:23 the headache could conceivably go away
20:25 for two years and then come back
20:26 sometimes you know someone who has it
20:28 may think oh geez you know i guess
20:30 i guess maybe i don’t need a doctor for
20:32 this anymore and then it comes roaring
20:34 back and then the whole process starts
20:35 over again
20:37 so people get misdiagnosed a lot the
20:40 single most common misdiagnosis would be
20:42 migraine
20:43 sinusitis it kind of i find that one a
20:45 little shocking um
20:46 but but there it is about 21 have been
20:50 uh misdiagnosed as having sinusitis and
20:52 then sometimes allergies and dental
20:54 issues
20:54 again i find those ones a little hard to
20:56 swallow but there it is
20:58 um so there are some issues with why
21:00 people get misdiagnosed
21:02 that i think is really important for
21:03 people to know as well as i mentioned
21:05 before
21:06 if someone is sensitive to light that
21:08 may lead someone down the wrong path and
21:09 being led to a diagnosis of migraine
21:11 when sensitivity to light particularly
21:13 if it’s in one eye is allowed
21:15 in cluster headache sometimes those
21:18 autonomic symptoms that i that i
21:20 described to you before those can be
21:22 mistaken as as symptoms of sinus disease
21:24 and i think that’s probably why that
21:26 misdiagnosis happens a lot and this one
21:28 is really unfortunate um
21:30 while we know that clutch cluster
21:32 headache does appear
21:33 more often than men compared with women
21:35 unlike migraine
21:36 um women may have attacks that are a
21:39 little different than men sometimes they
21:40 don’t fit the mold just quite so
21:42 perfectly maybe their attacks are just a
21:44 little longer
21:45 or maybe they don’t cycle quite the same
21:46 way men do and i think if a woman is
21:49 coming in with a headache that doesn’t
21:50 quite fit into a nice little box they’re
21:52 a lot more likely to see
21:53 an incorrect diagnosis and be labeled as
21:55 migraine and i’ve seen that
21:57 countless times in my own practice in
21:58 fact my very first patient i ever had
22:01 when i when i finished my fellowship and
22:03 started uh headache practice
22:05 uh she had cluster headache and she was
22:08 told that it was impossible for her to
22:09 have cluster headache because she was a
22:11 woman
22:11 so these sorts of beliefs and
22:14 and and practices are really out there
22:17 um and that’s very unfortunate because
22:18 even if it is
22:19 even if the ratio really is three to one
22:22 men to women there’s still lots of women
22:23 out there that have
22:24 that have cluster headache and we have
22:25 to be open-minded
22:27 so the reasons why it can be
22:30 misdiagnosis there’s
22:31 not just the reasons i stated there’s
22:33 also there’s also the word
22:35 cluster in the diagnosis that can in
22:38 itself
22:39 be a little bit misleading and one of
22:41 the common
22:44 incorrect terms that sometimes people
22:46 see get labeled as
22:47 as having cluster migraines now
22:51 cluster migraines that really is it’s
22:54 sort of a descriptive term but it’s not
22:55 a diagnosis
22:57 so what i hear what i think about when i
22:59 hear someone saying they have cluster
23:00 migraine is one of two things
23:02 it means either their doctor is not sure
23:05 if they have cluster headache or if they
23:06 have
23:06 migraine or they have migraine that
23:09 tends to occur
23:10 on back to back to back days that
23:11 cluster together therefore someone
23:14 believes they may have cluster headache
23:15 because they are clustering
23:17 and i think the term cluster headache is
23:19 part of the reason for its own
23:20 misdiagnosis
23:21 for what it’s worth and then you have to
23:24 keep in mind that
23:25 while cluster headache is you know
23:28 it’s not uncommon but it’s not super
23:30 common whereas migraine
23:32 is incredibly common and it’s not
23:35 impossible in fact it’s not unlikely
23:37 for someone to potentially have both
23:39 problems so there are definitely people
23:41 who have an
23:42 independent diagnosis of migraine and a
23:45 diagnosis of cluster headache
23:47 and i think that if we have a history of
23:48 someone who’s had a previous
23:50 diagnosis of migraine and then comes in
23:52 with a new headache
23:53 it gets the new headache may get
23:55 overlooked or attributed to being
23:57 migraine and i see and i do definitely
23:58 see that more common
24:00 in female patients compared with male
24:02 patients
24:04 so pathophysiology means you know why
24:07 does it happen what’s the mechanism by
24:09 way this
24:09 uh this headache is generated and i
24:12 think when it comes to many primary
24:14 headache disorders like cluster headache
24:16 we don’t
24:16 know exactly there is a lot of
24:19 thoughts out there we know that uh it
24:22 may represent a spectrum of disease
24:24 because there is
24:25 two or three other related headache
24:27 disorders
24:28 that we differentiate based on the
24:31 timing of the attack
24:32 so is it within that 15 to 180 minutes
24:35 and does it mean criteria for cluster
24:37 if it’s shorter and there’s more
24:39 headache attacks per day that may be a
24:41 completely separate diagnosis
24:43 um and that can be important because it
24:45 can mean that
24:46 treatment of each diagnosis is a little
24:48 bit different but we do believe there is
24:50 some a little bit of overlap
24:52 and sometimes making sure that the
24:54 timing of each headache attack
24:56 is is tracked properly can be really
24:58 important and actually coming to the
25:00 proper diagnosis
25:02 so we know that there are structures in
25:04 the brain that that light up a little
25:06 bit
25:06 when we actually image somebody when
25:08 they’re having a cluster headache attack
25:10 and we know that parts of the brain
25:11 called the thalamus and the hypothalamus
25:14 are probably related at generating this
25:16 disorder
25:17 exactly what they do and what’s wrong is
25:21 still to be determined but there is some
25:23 interplay between what we call the
25:24 trigeminal nerve which is responsible
25:26 for the sensation of
25:28 of the face and the head on that side um
25:31 as well as what we call the trigeminal
25:33 cervical complex which has to do with
25:36 the nerves innervating the back of the
25:37 head
25:38 as well as the nerves coming from the
25:40 upper part of the neck called the
25:42 cervical spine
25:43 and we think that the interplay between
25:46 all those structures together calls
25:48 forms what we call the trigeminal
25:49 autonomic reflex
25:51 and that’s why the pain and the
25:53 autonomic symptoms tend to come together
25:58 so you mentioned that unlike migraine
26:01 it’s not uncommon for us to find
26:03 you know something else that’s going on
26:05 that could be that could be playing a
26:06 part
26:07 often that something else is nothing to
26:10 worry about
26:10 but it may impact treatment so for
26:13 example i
26:14 put on here some that are very uncommon
26:17 but not impossible things that we often
26:19 go looking for
26:20 and we often go looking for those
26:21 specifically if something doesn’t fit
26:24 so if we hear okay you have cluster
26:26 headache but there’s just something
26:28 that’s not right maybe the attacks are
26:30 longer than they should be maybe they’re
26:31 shorter than they should be
26:33 maybe it started later maybe it started
26:35 in a different way than it should
26:37 those cases we may actually be more
26:38 likely to go looking for these things
26:40 but there is some other things that we
26:41 find even in people who fit the mold
26:43 just perfectly
26:45 we have we have noticed that people with
26:47 cluster headache are more likely
26:49 to have an abnormality on their
26:51 pituitary gland
26:53 and that abnormality can range anywhere
26:55 from a small growth
26:56 called a an adenoma which can secrete
27:00 hormones
27:00 or sometimes secrete nothing and it may
27:02 just be a small growth that never
27:04 actually plays a part into your overall
27:06 long-term health so
27:08 even if we find this it doesn’t mean
27:09 it’s going to be life-threatening or
27:13 affect one’s longevity or or impact
27:16 with other health problems but sometimes
27:19 if we do find one and it secretes
27:21 hormones and we treat it
27:22 the headaches can actually get better so
27:25 that’s an important reason why we
27:26 sometimes go looking for it and we
27:28 especially do it when things don’t fit
27:30 or when our first line treatments don’t
27:32 seem to work what we’ll often do when we
27:34 see
27:34 someone who’s coming in with a first
27:36 diagnosis of cluster headache
27:38 is you know my practice you know and i
27:40 granted every every
27:41 every physician has a different practice
27:43 but i would argue that the research
27:45 would support
27:46 that most or or if not all patients with
27:49 cluster headaches should have an mri
27:51 brain
27:51 to take a look at the pituitary glands
27:54 specifically
27:56 um and sometimes just some baseline
27:58 hormonal screening so things like
28:00 thyroid screening screening for
28:02 testosterone or screening for
28:06 a hormone called prolactin can be
28:07 helpful in that it may point us towards
28:10 something else going on or it may help
28:12 us impact
28:13 uh it may help us make treatment
28:14 decisions
28:16 for what it’s worth we do sometimes also
28:18 recommend a sleep study
28:19 and that can be for a few reasons number
28:22 one if someone does have sleep apnea
28:25 which is a condition of disordered
28:26 breathing and sleep where people
28:28 uh they may gasp in their sleep they may
28:30 snore a lot
28:31 they may um they may actually you know
28:34 be depriving themselves of oxygen
28:37 because of this condition
28:39 and we know that untreated sleep apnea
28:41 is also a risk factor for things like
28:43 stroke
28:44 and high blood pressure and coronary
28:45 artery disease but
28:47 we also know that if we treat sleep
28:48 apnea in a cluster headache patient
28:50 their headaches can get better and
28:52 interestingly enough we have found that
28:54 there’s some people
28:55 with with what i call the episodic
28:57 cluster headache who may only have
28:59 symptoms of sleep apnea
29:01 while their headaches are active in that
29:02 sort of perhaps in the fall or in the
29:04 spring but in other times of year they
29:06 don’t seem to have sleep apnea
29:07 so even if we find it it may only need
29:10 to be treated
29:11 when the headache is active and not at
29:12 other times of the year for what it’s
29:13 worth but
29:14 it can also be a reason why a sleep
29:16 study may not give us a diagnosis of
29:18 sleep apnea
29:19 so it’s also important that if someone
29:21 is getting it done
29:23 a proper sleep study should actually be
29:24 done while the headache is active
29:27 so there are ways in which we treat and
29:30 there are
29:31 um different strategies that we employ
29:33 for treatment and wendy just give me a
29:35 shout if i’m i’m close to timing
29:37 um but uh we know that
29:41 episodic cluster headache patients there
29:43 may be a couple of different types of
29:45 treatments they need
29:46 so one thing we call is abortive or
29:48 rescue treatment
29:49 so what do you do when the headache is
29:51 happening to try to get rid of it and
29:53 feel better
29:54 then we have what’s called transitional
29:56 treatment so transitional treatment is
29:58 something you might take at the
30:00 beginning of a cluster cycle
30:02 with the aim of reducing the duration of
30:04 the cluster cycle
30:05 reducing the overall number of headaches
30:07 in that cluster cycle
30:09 or reducing the number of headaches per
30:11 day during that cluster cycle
30:13 but it’s not something you’re on long
30:15 term in between cluster cycles
30:17 whereas proper preventive therapy means
30:20 for example if you have someone with
30:22 chronic cluster headache or if you have
30:24 someone with
30:25 really frequent cycles of cluster
30:27 headache those people may need to be on
30:29 some kind of preventive medication year
30:31 round
30:32 so some patients with cluster headache
30:34 need one of these types of treatments
30:35 some people need two
30:36 some people need all three depending on
30:39 how bad things are
30:42 the problem we run into is because it’s
30:45 hard to enroll people for a lot of the
30:46 reasons i stated you know
30:48 sometimes it’s hard to catch people at
30:50 the beginning of their cluster headache
30:51 cycle
30:52 maybe neurologists don’t get referred
30:53 these people or get to see them until
30:55 their class their cluster headache cycle
30:57 is over with so it can be hard to know
31:00 um when to enroll someone in a study and
31:02 even in some of the newer studies we
31:04 have
31:04 if we’re initiating a new medicine they
31:06 often have to do a screening
31:08 first to see what their baseline is like
31:10 so there may be a couple weeks at the
31:12 beginning
31:12 where we’re getting a baseline screen
31:14 before we introduce an intervention
31:17 so it’s not really representative of
31:19 starting a medicine right at the
31:20 beginning of a cluster headache cycle
31:22 so even the way that our studies are
31:24 designed are not perfect
31:25 for what we do see in real life so a
31:28 couple of things we think about
31:29 in terms of rescue treatment and there’s
31:31 a couple things that i want to make sure
31:32 that that everyone
31:33 um either who has this or who who treats
31:36 people with it
31:37 or who knows someone who has it um can
31:40 can maybe help out help them out with it
31:42 and i think the most important thing to
31:44 think about
31:45 is oxygen and what’s interesting is
31:48 it’s what we call level a evidence
31:51 meaning it has the strongest evidence
31:52 out there for
31:53 its use meaning we know it works and
31:56 it’s important because upwards of 80
31:58 80 of all people with cluster headache
32:00 will see a relief of their individual
32:02 headache episode
32:03 within 15 minutes of administration of
32:05 oxygen but
32:07 here are the problems we see with oxygen
32:09 sometimes oxygen is not delivered
32:11 properly
32:11 sometimes if someone goes to let’s say
32:13 the emergency room they get
32:15 oxygen put in their nose by what we call
32:17 a nasal cannula
32:18 that is not sufficient so we know that
32:20 for oxygen to be delivered properly
32:22 during a cluster headache cycle it needs
32:24 to be high flow
32:26 oxygen so at least 12 to 15 liters of
32:28 oxygen per minute
32:29 and it needs to be delivered by a face
32:31 mask and if there are holes in the face
32:33 mask those holes should be filled
32:35 and a lot of those things are things
32:37 that i sometimes have to troubleshoot
32:38 with someone
32:39 if they come and see me and they say hey
32:41 you know what i’ve already had a trial
32:42 of oxygen it really doesn’t help me
32:44 sometimes one of those things was
32:45 missing along the way and there is even
32:48 some
32:48 more recent work to suggest that even
32:51 higher levels
32:52 of oxygen even higher flow oxygen levels
32:55 can be can
32:56 be helpful for people who don’t respond
32:57 to lower levels
32:59 the other problem we run into is because
33:02 as i mentioned
33:02 lots of people who have these headache
33:05 attacks
33:06 their individual headaches may be less
33:07 than 60 minutes in fact many of them are
33:10 so introducing an oral medication
33:13 is often not helpful because to actually
33:15 absorb
33:16 a medicine through your stomach to then
33:18 have it reach its peak concentration in
33:20 your blood
33:21 often takes upwards of an hour so
33:23 actually taking a medicine orally is
33:25 often not the answer so we have to think
33:26 about other roots
33:28 so that’s why sometimes we have to use
33:29 um
33:32 intranasal formulations so there is
33:34 medicines called
33:35 zomitryptan and sumatriptan which can be
33:38 introduced into the nose
33:40 as well as sometimes lidocaine can be
33:42 used for people maybe who can’t take
33:44 sumatriptan or or or zomatrypton for
33:47 other medical reasons
33:48 and then we actually have injectable
33:49 therapies so assume sumatran actually
33:51 comes in an injectable level and it has
33:53 a
33:53 and it’s been studied widely and shown
33:55 to be very effective but the problems we
33:57 have here is
33:58 it’s not reasonable cost effective or
34:00 safe for people to take this
34:02 you know eight times a day if they have
34:04 um very high frequency cluster headache
34:06 episodes and i kind of mentioned a
34:08 little bit about some of the issues with
34:09 oxygen but then there is some of the
34:11 the issues i haven’t mentioned like it’s
34:13 not always practical to carter out an
34:14 oxygen tank with you
34:16 um which kind of goes without saying so
34:18 um and then
34:19 for some depending on where people live
34:21 and what uh
34:22 what insurers they’re dealing with it’s
34:23 often not covered so there’s often some
34:26 out-of-pocket
34:26 uh costs that come with with hooking up
34:28 oxygen that we don’t often think about
34:30 and sometimes we’re guilty of that as
34:31 doctors about not always thinking about
34:33 these things
34:35 then the transitional treatment which i
34:36 mentioned you know these things are
34:39 also imperfect um but they do they can
34:42 really work
34:43 so sometimes we use oral steroid
34:44 medications like prednisone or
34:46 dexamethasone
34:47 and those can work at both shortening
34:49 and decreasing the severity of the
34:51 headache
34:52 cycle of that cluster period but you
34:54 know these medicines are not nothing
34:56 they
34:56 are uh they’re part and parcel with
34:58 their own side effects with their own
35:00 problems and we have to be careful about
35:01 you know
35:02 can we give this to the right person can
35:03 we do it safely are we doing it too
35:05 often
35:06 and we have to make sure we make these
35:07 decisions with a patient as well
35:10 and then injections can be injections
35:12 and infusions can be reserved you know
35:13 for people who just
35:15 you know don’t have an effect from the
35:16 standard oral medications
35:19 but interestingly we have we have um
35:22 a procedural treatment that actually has
35:24 really strong evidence
35:26 this the problem with this again is you
35:28 know there’s there’s not there’s not
35:29 every provider out there who can
35:31 who can actually do these procedures so
35:33 sometimes it has to be done by a
35:34 neurologist sometimes by a pain clinic
35:36 sometimes sometimes family physicians
35:38 actually know how to do this sometimes
35:39 emergency room physicians
35:41 know how to do this but um it is
35:43 important that it gets
35:44 that these get done with a local steroid
35:46 medication
35:47 um and we know that if they’re done
35:49 right at the beginning of the cluster
35:51 headache cycle
35:51 they can actually be effective at
35:53 reducing the uh the overall frequency
35:56 and duration of the uh of that cluster
35:59 headache cycle
36:02 and you know as of very recently and
36:04 this is pretty exciting um because
36:06 if we look at what’s come out recently
36:09 um
36:10 in terms of evidence-based treatments
36:11 for cluster headache there hasn’t been a
36:13 whole lot
36:14 but as of just very recently a
36:16 medication called mgality
36:18 has come out initially it was studied
36:20 and designed for migraine
36:22 but don’t when it’s dosed differently
36:24 and delivered at the beginning of a
36:25 cluster headache cycle
36:27 it also has had proven benefit for
36:29 people with episodic
36:30 cluster headache and it has just
36:33 actually just been recently approved in
36:34 canada
36:35 and as of today um we’re allowed we’re
36:38 able to prescribe it and enroll people
36:40 in the uh in the patient support program
36:42 to help them actually have access
36:43 to mgality for cluster headaches so this
36:45 is a i guess a timely uh
36:47 timely day to be talking about this um
36:49 it is dosed differently than the
36:51 migraine dose if anyone here is familiar
36:52 with it
36:53 and the way that it’s dosed is at the
36:56 very very very beginning
36:57 of the cluster headache cycle you’re
36:59 given three injections
37:01 and then that period that’s continued
37:04 every month until that cluster headache
37:06 cluster headache cycle subsides so
37:08 that’s the way that we
37:10 that’s the way that we use it there are
37:12 a lot of other preventive treatments so
37:14 things that can be used year-round
37:16 either for people with really frequent
37:17 cluster headache cycles or people with
37:19 chronic cluster headache
37:20 but again we lack a lot of evidence into
37:23 what is helpful and what isn’t
37:25 and a lot of the medicines that we use
37:26 don’t have a huge amount of evidence to
37:28 support their use it doesn’t mean they
37:29 will work
37:30 um certainly speaking i know lots of
37:32 people who who’ve had really good
37:34 effects from all these medicines
37:36 but it just means that there’s a little
37:38 bit less
37:39 certain a bit a bit less certainty and
37:42 often the medicines are a little messier
37:44 compared with some other treatments if
37:45 you look here none of these medicines
37:47 were designed
37:48 for cluster headache doesn’t mean they
37:49 will work but there is also some other
37:52 exciting stuff coming out you know
37:53 um there is a treatment called
37:55 non-invasive vagus nerve stimulation
37:58 which is something um we briefly had it
38:01 available in canada
38:02 but it’s going to be available again
38:03 very very shortly i believe
38:05 um and it is something that can deliver
38:07 pulse pulses to the neck
38:09 and you can do it um throughout the when
38:11 someone has episode cluster headache
38:13 it’s actually been shown to help
38:14 reduce the burden of headache in about
38:16 half of patients so
38:18 um the good news about it is it’s well
38:20 tolerated very few side effects are
38:22 associated with it
38:23 so it may be a really good choice for
38:25 people who who have a hard time with
38:27 medicine
38:28 or are prone to side effects of
38:30 medication or maybe they have medical
38:31 indica
38:32 medical problems that prohibit them from
38:34 using some other medications
38:36 um then there is some you know kind of
38:39 scary
38:40 sounding surgical options that we really
38:42 don’t employ very often
38:43 um either because the benefit of them
38:46 does not
38:47 seem to be worth the risk or they’re not
38:50 available
38:51 widely or they’re not available anymore
38:53 or there’s no one to do them
38:57 so there is a few things that are
38:58 emerging that i’m sure anybody who’s
39:00 read about
39:01 cluster headache or is dealing with
39:02 cluster headache has certainly thought
39:03 about or read about and is wondering
39:05 about
39:06 and the most common thing you’ll hear
39:08 about if you read about upcoming
39:10 treatments
39:10 in cluster headache is psychedelic
39:12 substances and specifically
39:15 psilocybin containing mushrooms the jury
39:18 is still
39:18 out as to whether these are truly
39:20 effective or not but
39:22 you know and we always have to be very
39:23 careful when we interpret
39:26 data that we get from just surveying
39:28 people
39:29 because it’s it’s imperfect you know of
39:32 course we need to do proper trials to
39:33 know whether or not these are effective
39:35 but for what it’s worth there is some
39:38 good
39:38 anecdotal data at least anecdotal just
39:41 means
39:42 data taken from people who have been
39:43 dealing with this problem
39:45 that using using these
39:48 psilocybin mushrooms and what we call
39:50 microdosing so that would mean
39:52 dosing below the level of giving you a
39:55 hallucinogenic property
39:57 uh can actually be effective for some
39:59 people
40:00 this is nowhere near ready to be
40:01 prescribed by doctors yet but there is
40:03 some trials that are ongoing throughout
40:04 the world and you know hey
40:06 if it uh i hope that it that it helps
40:09 and i hope that the trials are positive
40:10 to give us just one more option that we
40:12 can give to people
40:16 and there is you know um there is a
40:18 support group for anyone who i’m sure
40:20 anyone who’s attending this who hasn’t
40:22 heard of the cluster buster support
40:23 group
40:24 and there is um advice and data
40:27 on this this type of treatment on their
40:29 website for what it’s worth
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40:32 the other thing i think that’s important
40:34 to mention is that we do see a higher
40:36 level of substance abuse
40:39 in people who have cluster headache
40:40 compared with the general population
40:42 whether that has to do with cause or
40:44 effect or coping with a really terrible
40:46 illness
40:47 i just don’t think we know but i do
40:49 think it’s an important thing that
40:51 everyone
40:51 who treats and everyone who knows
40:53 someone with cluster headache is aware
40:54 of
40:55 and i think it also points out that we
40:57 probably need to do better at just
40:58 finding more treatments i think i think
41:00 that’s a that’s a pretty important thing
41:01 to to talk about um so here’s what i
41:04 think everybody should should really
41:06 know about and ask for
41:08 when if and when they think they have
41:09 this or they’re talking to their doctor
41:11 or their they know they have it and
41:13 they’re seeking out treatment so
41:15 recognize that things can be cyclical so
41:18 keep your appointment you know even if
41:19 you’re feeling better
41:20 by the time you get the appointment keep
41:21 it um take note of
41:24 how long your individual attacks for
41:26 they can be terrible but time them
41:28 time them even with your phone and then
41:31 time how often they happen sign them how
41:33 many times per day because that can be
41:34 really paramount coming to the correct
41:36 diagnosis
41:37 because that actually really can and i
41:38 didn’t talk about the details of
41:40 some of the related disorders but some
41:42 of them really are treated quite
41:43 differently
41:44 and then notice note the time of day not
41:46 just how often they happen and how long
41:48 they are but know
41:49 if there’s a very specific time of day
41:51 that they happen because that actually
41:52 can be really helpful
41:53 uh for people like me coming to the
41:55 right diagnosis
41:56 and if you don’t know what you look like
41:59 in the mirror when it happens or you
42:00 you know you feel too unwell to really
42:02 pay attention take a photo
42:04 take a photo specifically of both of
42:06 your eyes during
42:07 an attack of this headache and that can
42:09 allow your doctor to see hey look there
42:11 is something
42:11 observable there because the chances are
42:14 you know just by just by random chance
42:17 that your doctor probably will not have
42:18 the opportunity to witness one of these
42:20 headaches while you’re in the office
42:21 so either a video or a picture of your
42:24 eyes
42:24 during a headache attack can be really
42:26 really helpful for people who are trying
42:27 to help
42:30 so there are lots of people who may not
42:33 have
42:34 or they may have knowledge of it of what
42:36 but they may not have knowledge of what
42:38 a what and how to treat cluster headache
42:40 with so
42:42 ideally if this is you or this is
42:44 someone you care about
42:45 try to get them someone you know and and
42:47 i would say most neurologists for
42:49 example would have at least the basic
42:50 skills and managing and diagnosing
42:52 cluster headache
42:53 and and it’s important to advocate for
42:56 even if you’re feeling better
42:57 between attacks to have somebody that
42:59 whose roster you can stay on for when
43:01 you need help
43:02 so i i think that if you contrast this
43:05 to migraine
43:06 if people have what we call episodic
43:08 migraine it’s under good control
43:10 it’s perfectly reasonable for a
43:11 neurologist to say hey you know you have
43:13 the skills you need
43:14 your family doctor has some good skills
43:16 and you can give them advice and
43:18 discharge them back to their family
43:19 doctor that’s a pretty reasonable
43:20 practice
43:21 with cluster headache being a lot less
43:23 frequent a lot more infrequent
43:25 a lot more challenging to treat and
43:28 diagnose
43:29 i do think most of the time it requires
43:31 the skills of a neurologist to treat
43:33 uh properly over the long term and you
43:36 know
43:36 keep in mind that you know these these
43:38 disorders are
43:40 wrought with suicidal thoughts and
43:41 substance abuse so if you or anyone you
43:44 know is dealing with this
43:45 please ask for help because there is
43:46 help available for this too
43:48 okay that’s about all i have
43:51 this was just an overview of a very
43:53 complicated problem that um
43:56 that i hope that i hope you guys all um
43:58 were interested in hearing about
44:00 thank you very much uh dr kingston um
44:03 and thanks again
44:04 everybody for joining in tonight i hope
44:07 you all stay
44:08 well in this crazy covered world that
44:09 we’re living in um
44:11 thank you again to you dr kingston for
44:13 joining us
44:14 and uh we’ll be in touch check our
44:16 website out regularly we are
44:18 holding um trying to hold one webinar
44:21 per month
44:22 so we have another one coming up on
44:24 february 22nd
44:25 on uh the female life cycle and migraine
44:29 with uh
44:29 dr rose giamarco so hopefully
44:33 you’ll all be able to join in on that as
44:35 well and i wish you a happy evening
44:38 take care bye
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